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It should be noted that despite the headline - Google is not censoring any search terms. They're just not allowing certain words in the search auto-complete. A controversial move to be sure, but something they've done with other words since the introduction of search auto complete


Aren't there plenty of sexual terms that are already "censored" in the instant suggestions database? That hasn't affected anything so I doubt this will have any large scale impact on file sharing.


It's one thing for them to refrain from auto-completing the users' first few letters with suggestions including the filthiest words in the language. That's quite understandable to me. After all, it seems unlikely that those results are what users ordinarily want and there is a very high attentional cost to offering them wrongly (from the UI perspective).

But in this case, they're filtering out perfectly ordinary words for perfectly legitimate network protocols and actual products. If I type "utorren" there's no reason Google should withhold the "t" other that pure evil search-term engineering.

It's incomprehensible to me that a company that refused to filter "democracy" in China will agree to demote "utorrent" in America.


Just out of curiosity, can someone explain what it was about what I said that it deserves to be modded into negative numbers?

Did I break a rule, is this site overrun with fanboyism, or something else entirely?


http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

"Resist complaining about being downmodded. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading."


Yeah I knew that which is why I wasn't complaining. Agreed, this is boring.


Agreed, it's definitely hypocritical of Google.

The whole "don't be evil" ideal has a two big caveats these days: 1) as long as it doesn't interfere with profits 2) or google's corporate interests.


But how can not returning search suggestions that the user in all probability actually wants be in their corporate interest? How could this do anything but detract from the #1 value Google has: the quality of their search?

What miniscule gain in the reduction of uTorrent users or the temporary appeasement of RIAA/MPAA demands could this possibly be worth the debasing of their brand image?


Racial ones too, I believe.


Yeah. You can't do this shit anymore:

http://uvtblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/why_do_black.j...

http://suggestoftheday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/gsold....

At least the results aren't as funny. "Chinese people are aliens" is still a google-endorsed suggestion though. WHAT DO THEY KNOW?


Once upon a time, a frog lived in a pool of water. One day, the water began to slowly grow hot…


I take your meaning, but as to your metaphor... http://www.theatlantic.com/james-fallows/boiledfrog/?cid=140



Interesting! I wonder why no one has tried to replicate the .2C/minute experiment?


Well, I have a couple of teenage boys...


It strikes me this could be a clever flack reducing measure. Censoring from autocomplete would be a good way of reducing the annoyance felt by content creators as they google their own title.


Exactly. There's obviously a difference between Google actively suggesting a term that could encourage piracy, versus providing the results for people who already have that query in their mind and choose to submit it as a search.


"kill o" suggests "kill obama". Is Google encouraging to kill Obama ?

"kill osama bin laden" appears only with "kill os". Is this an hint of the Google priorities ?

These are obviously rhetorical questions.


Well, whatever they're doing it's never going to have any effect on blogspot, where the vast majority of filedrop blogs are located.


Your claim that Google is not censoring search results is entirely unfounded. You are correct about filtering being done on auto-complete, but Google also filters the living snot out of results. They have always filtered results, and providing "relevant" pages for the given search terms is only one of their goals.


So they censoring their auto-complete list, isn't that still censoring?


Censoring whom?


Well, I'll say "Google is not censoring any search results" but it is censoring any search terms, right?


No. It is declining to actively push certain terms on the user.


> It is declining to actively push certain terms on the user.

Let's say a search engine in China was obligated to "decline actively pushing a certain query", would we not call that censorship? Can someone explain my semantic hangup?


Well, I think that's it and you're right.


Could this be anything but a precursor to trying to filter out of the main search results?


The thin edge of the wedge, perhaps?




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