Please don't post unsubstantive comments to HN, regardless of which $BigCo you like or dislike.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Apple may not be perfect, but the bar to be more ethical than Facebook is incredibly low.

Facebook has consistently demonstrated a level of contempt for their users' privacy for many years. I took note of this personally for the first time in ~2007 when the news feed launched and their privacy settings around it very obviously employed dark patterns, but it's clear from reading about the history of the company that it's something that has existed from their very beginnings.

And Apple uses forced labor in Xinjiang - one could make the case that that's worse than dark patterns.

How so? Apple don't sell your data to third parties.

Neither does Facebook. Using user data to target ads is different than selling data to third parties.

Yes, it’s worse. Facebook doesn’t sell your data, they sell your attention and futures on your behavior. Apple doesn’t.

Sure they do. Apple's ad network is the third largest after Google and Meta.

It is exactly that. They use data your put on Facebook to make allow audience targeting down to even an individual level.

Consider how much environmental damage they're doing by churning out so many physical products and convincing many people to buy them ASAP. That's arguably worse than privacy issues. Not that Facebook is any better - their business model relies on helping turbocharge excessive consumerism through targeted ads.