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If the UN were an organization with meaning, the US should be getting slapped for stuff like this. As an American citizen, I am revolted at what my government has become (I still think it is a pretty good country, but that is changing, too).

The constant rhetoric of groups like the Tea Party around "what the founding fathers wanted" is a response to things like the Fourth Amendment being completely ignored. It is unfortunate so much of that anger gets focused in ultimately useless directions with the Democratic witch hunting. The Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force was started by the Reagan administration.



Unfortunately the U.S.G. has operated in this manner for a number of decades. It is merely expanding it's power into a new realm.


The US, along with a few other countries have a permanent vetoes on the UN Security Council. If you are a US citizen and would like to see the UN get more teeth, campaign for your government to give up it's permanent seat.


You are angry at the republicans in the US, yet in general, the left wants more government control over our lives.


I'm sick of both "sides". I'm tired of people getting caught up in "<Party I'm not in> is destroying are government, but <Party I'm in> is the solution to all our problems", when both parties are raping our rights. If I was a bit more tin-foil oriented, I could imagine a conspiracy that intentionally puts party members at odds to distract from the real power grab going on. I'm not convinced it isn't just human tribalism at work, though.

"My chief can beat up your chief."

(And if you really believe one side wants more control than the other, regardless of side, you've bought it, hook, line and sinker. The question isn't about control, anymore. It's about how to express that control.)


Both sides of the Left-Right debate want more control.

Gay marriage is only an issue because some Republicans feel they have every right to control your personal relationships. A few Republicans also want to ban abortion, which is again a ridiculousness intrusive government control. Let alone tapping every form of communication, tightening immigration restrictions, increasing law enforcement funding etc. Even the idea we can dictate what other country's do inside their brooders suggests a level of control that's unreasonable.

PS: I would love to vote for Ron Paul, but everyone else just seems to pay lip service to the idea of smaller government without intending to do so.


> marriage is only an issue because some Republicans feel they have every right to control your personal relationships

This is completely OT but marriage is by design, its very nature and tradition not a personal relationship. That's why you have a gathering (the wedding itself), someone usually perceived as important presiding, a party (the reception), why you take your vows in public, why its registered in often publicly accessible registry, why you announce it in a newspaper etc, etc. The concept is even established in the common law by which you can, sometimes and in some places, become married by "acting married" in public.

Marriage is for the society much more than it is for the people getting married. And in the western culture governments decided the terms of marriage (also, possibly more importantly, divorce) on and off since antiquity. It's not some new development.


That's a vary western view of marriage, other cultures have a vary different view of similar concepts. In the US we pay lip service to the idea of separating church and state, but we don't actually do much to separate culture and state which means religion has a back door.


"You are angry at the republicans in the US, yet in general, the left wants more government control over our lives."

Democrats and Republicans are merely different sides of the same rusty coin.


By global standards, the US government doesn't have a left wing. In most places in the world the Democrats would be considered slightly right of center free-market capitalists.

[edit] For example, in the US the Democrats publicly say they want healthcare to be affordable, in the UK the Conservatives are the right-wing party and publicly say they want to keep healthcare free and available to everyone based on need, not the ability to pay.




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