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		gingerjoos on July 4, 2012 \| parent \| context \| favorite \| on: PHP is much better than what you think IMO, more important than the language itself are the frameworks built on the language. Ruby might be _the best_ language ever, but without Rails it wouldn't have gotten famous. It wouldn't have mattered so much that Python is a beautiful language if Django sucked. If a good framework came out of the PHP community, we could forget that "PHP sucks". A good framework which prevented you from doing stupid things would be really great. Not sure if PHP has anything like that, at this moment. I use PHP and Python(Django) - work and play.

freshhawk on July 4, 2012 | [–]

I actually think that the PHP language itself is the cause of this framework disparity.

Alot of those nice framework features rely on higher level language features that are missing from or atrocious to use in PHP.

andyzweb on July 4, 2012 | [–]

s/ruby/lisp/g

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